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[belles--rose]

I wasted so many years holding toxic anti-sjw and transmed beliefs, even putting up with exclusionists bullshit because I was brainwashed. Fuck all three of these toxic communities, none of them actually give two shits about lgbt+ people because all of them will gladly lick homophobic boots to look like "the good ones".

I'm sorry to everyone I've hurt when I held these awful ideals.

EDIT: To any exclusionist types still following me, get lost. You're not welcome here.

[belles--rose]

To add: this includes followers being panphobic, aphobic, arophobic, nb-phobic, etc. I will bock you, because I do in fact hate you. Fuck your exclusionism.

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[justpastryvideos]

x

[krystal-prisms]

Babe, wake up, it’s that fucking chocolate guy again

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[reallyreallyreallytrying]

life hack: u dont have to be a wolf to yell sad noises at the moon

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[clawfootboy]

pitter patter putter patter *you look down and see this*

[great-and-small]

I would do anything for the terra cotta corn puppy

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[tay-likes-toons]

Character construction from the Lowbrow/Megas XLR production bible

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[tay-likes-toons]

Do’s and Don’ts from the Lowbrow/Megas XLR production bible

(more to come)

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[liquidstar]

fullmetal alchemist was nuts because “theres a crazy murderer who was executed for his crimes and then had his soul implanted in a suit of armor as part of a twisted government experiment” is a D-plot at best

[liquidstar]

correction: this was actually three characters i just forgot about the other two because they had a more minor role and they were two mass murderers in a trench coat pretending to be one mass murderer

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[getpoliticaluk]

I’m going to burn down the times Scotland’s office

A full page ad of terf dog whistle, also terfs claim that they are the persecuted minority but you don’t see trans people buying full page adverts in major newspapers to attack them, how much did that page cost?

[getpoliticaluk]

Wow this attracted a whole block list of terfs saying this isn’t a dog whistle, it is, and 1 even calling the fucking times a small local newspaper anyway that advert cost a minimum of £16,645

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[posi-pan]

A panphobe claimed “multiple historical bi activists are against pansexuality” and used Lani Ka’ahumanu as an example. They cited a quote from her book, said “she pointed out the problem loud and clear” but “pro-pans aren’t ready for that conversation” and ended with “listen to bisexual elders” and “protect bisexual history”.

As someone who actually read her book and knows a bit about her activism, this made me too angry to ignore it.

This is the cited quote from Lani Ka’ahumanu and Loraine Hutchins’ book Bi Any Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out:

Bisexual attraction is narrowed to “men and women” while pansexual “opens the possibilities for attraction to more than two genders.” These definitions arbitrarily define bisexual in a binary way and then present pansexual as a non-binary alternative. This opens the doorway to a judgment that pansexual identity is superior to bisexual identity because it “opens possibilities” and is a “more fluid and much broader form of sexual orientation”. This judgmental conclusion is unacceptable and dangerous as it lends itself to perpetuating bisexual erasure. The actual lived non-binary history of the bisexual community and movement and the inclusive culture and community spirit of bisexuals are eradicated when a binary interpretation of our name for ourselves is arbitrarily assumed. (p. 16-17)

Left out is that pansexuality is not being criticized in that quote. How resource glossaries define pansexual and bisexual is being criticized. Specifically Exploring the Dimensions of Human Sexuality and Trans Bodies, Trans Selves.

Left out is that the following paragraph states:

The point is to respect one another and remain flexible in the ever changing self-identity landscape. We have to hold a safe space for people to define their personal experience without judgment. There is room for all of us. (p. 17)

Left out is that these quotes are in the same chapter:

Don’t “identity police” but DO spend time acknowledging the diversity that exists within the “B in LGBT” (p. 12)

People who are attracted to more than one sex and/or gender — now called variously bi, pan, fluid, queer. (p. 12)

All sexual identities including queer, pan, fluid, etc. (p. 13)

The term bisexual will be used as an inclusive term to mean romantic and/or sexual attraction to more than one gender, and includes pansexual, fluid, omnisexual, and queer self-identifications. (p. 14)

Pansexual people have been actively involved in the bisexual community since the 1970s. (p. 15)

We bisexuals, queer people, polysexuals, fluid people, pansexuals, by every name we call ourselves — continue to subvert gender assumptions and explore naming ourselves — by every other identity, to no-identity-needed-or-wanted at all. (p. 21)

What’s most important is respecting each person’s self-identity and being recognized and understood for who we are. (p. 21)

Left out is that Lani Ka’ahumanu said this in 2016:

I’m so glad I’m mentoring, and there’s so many young bisexuals coming up, and transgender people, and pansexuals, and sexuals, and fluids, and whatever you want to call yourself. Yes, do it. Just push it all. Please. (1:47:55)

Left out is that Lani Ka’ahumanu cofounded the Bay Area Bisexual Network, which published Anything That Moves, the pan inclusive magazine that the Bi Manifesto came from. The group has since been renamed to the Bay Area Bi+ & Pan Network.

Left out is that the bisexual community has a large, long history of supporting and including pan/mspec identities, one that far surpasses any pan/mspecphobic bisexual individuals.

Lani Ka’ahumanu supports pansexuality (and other mspec identities) and self-identification, believes there’s a place for all of our labels, and encourages people to grow as the terminology for sexuality grows.

But panphobes are taking the words of an almost 80 year old mixed race bisexual activist wildly out of context in order to use her as a tool in a hate campaign against a sexuality she supports.

So, tell me. Who really needs to listen to bisexual elders? Who does bisexual history really need to be protected from?

[autismserenity]

I've actually met Lani Ka'ahumanu, and the idea that she would be against calling yourself pan is hilarious.

Y'all. The bi movement was started by hippies. LITERALLY NONE of your ~bisexual elders~ give a fuck what any of you call yourselves. Not a single one.

The very strongest negative opinion I've ever seen from 70s-80s bi activists on "just calling yourself bi," was a piece in an '80s bi newsletter that kind of grumbled about how a ton of people don't use ANY label, because calling yourself bi comes with so much stigma.

That's it. That's actually the only one.

In fact, the reason that I've met Lani in person is that she lives in a part of Northern California that's at Big Fire Risk, so she stores her boxes of bi archival materials somewhere safer during fire season each year. And somehow I get to keep them for her this year, AND LOOK through them!

Which I started doing today.

Turns out that the Wellington, New Zealand Bi Women's Group - which still exists! - organized the first National NZ Bisexual Conference in 1990. And wrote up this report about it afterward.

At the "What Does Bisexuality Mean To Me?" workshop, "many agreed that finding the right words and language to describe ourselves could be a positive experience."

(Or, of course, today, it could be a horrible experience where people in your own community feel free to shit on you for using words they don't like.)

"Words like gynandrous, gender-bender, polymorphously perverse, and pansexual were suggested as possible alternatives to bisexual."

Emphasis mine. Please note that they were suggesting these as alternative words people might personally use, not proposing One New Term To Rule Them All.

Also note that these terms were very heavily about gender, and probably reflected the fact that the bi community has always included a LOT of nonbinary people.

(And if you look at large-scale studies now that separate bi and pan people out, the pan people are almost all under the trans umbrella.)

Likewise, at the "Bisexual Politics" workshop, the notes afterward repeatedly emphasized "wanting to ensure the bisexual community stays non-exclusive."

This bullshit tug-of-war over terms is a huge departure from bi culture, bi politics, and bi history, and it needs to stop.

The entire concept that SOME people don't get shat upon enough by our oppressors, and we need to make them feel as excluded and alienated as possible because they're BAD and/or DON'T BELONG, needs to GO.

But the anti-pan stuff is especially ridiculous, and that's saying something. It's not even "oh, you're making us look foolish in front of our oppressors," "you're not really queer," or "the labels and/or pronouns you use harm others in some unprovable way!" It's "I decided that everyone who uses this label does it because they think bad things about trans and/or bi people!"

Just purely making things up, making up rationalizations for them, and then saying all of them loud and long enough that a bunch of people join in.

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[korrasera]

Explain > Argue

Now that I'm finished with that latest ridiculously long post (sorry, @legsdemandias, I could not resist using that person as an exemplar) I feel like I should reiterate something I've said in the past.

I don't think arguing with people is useful. Debate doesn't really change anyone's mind. It just broadcasts the discussion to a wider audience and makes people dig in their heels and reinforce their position even harder.

Instead, I prefer to explain. Take what someone's saying and translate it so that anyone can see what they're saying and how they are saying it. That way, if I do my job right, you (the audience) comes out learning more about how people articulate their ideas and why exactly I think some of those ideas are raging trash fires of bad reasoning and inhumane attitudes.

So, that's my strategy. Explaining is far better than arguing.

Explain for the audience that may not be aware of the nuances of the discussion, don't try to argue in the hopes that you'll change the mind of your opponent or their supporters, because you almost certainly won't.

You'll help people to become better informed about sensitive topics and you'll also help inoculate them against the kind of manipulations that shitty people engage in on the regular.

[legsdemandias]

You’re absolutely fine, barely even noticed it, but I did get a continual chuckle out of it. 

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[legsdemandias]

Concrete, 100% effective way to tell if someone doesn’t belong in a LGBT+/queer space:

They openly and actively hate/ want to hurt the people in that space

[legsdemandias]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but just because you’re in a safe LGBT+/Queer space doesn’t mean you have to disclose their identity to everyone there. And people are allowed to bring their partners, regardless of their orientation, to those same spaces. 

Obviously there are certain spaces that are for specific people, but at the same time, y’all are so obsessed with micromanaging queer spaces. The only thing that should be a litmus for entry into those spaces is: “does this person want to hurt someone else in this space and I know that? Yes? Then they aren’t fucken welcome. Regardless of identity.”

[magicalpaz]

I volunteered in ine of the biggest queer youth clubs as an educator / guide (there isnt a word in english for these stuff).

We had so many queer kids that brought cishet friends and some of them didnt come out later, some of them really were cishet and that is fine.

They did no harm to the queer atmosphere and when someone new joined for the first time we gave them a little tour of the club and invited them to a one on one talk with one of the volunteers.

Ive had many of these conversations with teens at the ages of 12-19 and everyone calmed down when we told them there is no criteria to being there that this is a safe space and after a short explanation and some questions where many of them just blurted out their stories.

The non queer identifying people came for years either because they just met some friends from different places along the country and it was their usual hangout or because they really needed a safe space with no judgment in their lives.

Cishet people also need safe spaces where there are no gendered expectations of them and they can play with makeup and dresses and just be calm and learn about safe sexuality and consent.

Why in the world would you kick people who need safe spaces and benefit from them out???

Queer people seeing cishet people in queer spaces not acting weird and for once seeing the atmosphere is queer and the cis person has to adapt does marvels to one’s sense of how real it feels, how you could bring this safe space outside and this culture to other friends.

Introduce some of the stuff you learned to your friends and family maybe to some willing coworker idk.

The point is that our way to smash the patriarchy, gender roles, rape culture and more shit is too bring it outside and allow allies to be there cus why the fuck not

[legsdemandias]

Thanks for sharing! This really highlights a collection of reasons why it’s important to not create these arbitrary rules to who can and can’t come in. 

[prismatic-bell]

Also?

When I was in college, I had a cishet friend who was Christian and quietly felt homosexuality was a sin. I never heard her say so out loud….

…..which is why it STUNNED me when last year, she admitted she felt that way in college. But, she said, spending time with me in what we called the LGBTQIA+ group, to support me through a time when I was on and off suicidal, she discovered that queer people were, well….people. Who just wanted to be allowed to live. That might sound like “wow, the bar was belowground and she was doing the limbo with Satan,” but you must understand: this was 2006 in a very tiny town. Our senator had just compared homosexuality to both bestiality and pedophilia and there was a concerted push going on to write “one man, one woman” into the Constitution. Allison’s position (“I feel a certain kind of way but I’m not going to say it aloud”) was actually KINDER than most of the people around me.

And just spending time in our spaces, being around queer people, she realized “hey, what I have been told my whole life is a lie. These people are just people. Telling terrible jokes, having cookouts, fighting for basic human dignity, arguing over whether or not face painting is an appropriate college activity. There is no difference between them and me.”

Without a welcome into queer spaces, Allison might still be part of a homophobic church. Instead she helped organize her town’s first Pride parade in 2019.

“The queer kids, whether they’re gay or straight, need to stick together.” — Tim Miller, gay performance artist

Gatekeeping kills. STOP THAT.

[what-hos-there]

Lest anyone think that this is pandering to straight allies, it’s not. Straight people can exist in spaces without making it all about them, as hard as it may be to believe at certain parts of your life (and if that feels profoundly fake to you, I beg you to know some different straight people since the ones around you aren’t helping you).

Having straight people around doesn’t make a queer safe any more or less safe either, since queer people can be just as violent and horrific towards each other on the personal level that straight people can be towards us.

[legsdemandias]

And that was the point i was attempting to make, that violent bigotry isn’t exclusive to cis straights. If we compartmentalize violence we guarantee the invasion of said violence because we’ll ignore blatant trojan horses.

[loveislarryislove]

I moderate a Facebook group that is aimed at aces, but anyone can join if they can answer two simple questions that basically boil down to “are you going to actively harm people in this group?” Specifically, those questions are “do you believe heteroromantic aces have a place in the queer community?” (aka do you believe aces are/can be queer based solely on their asexuality?) and “will you use they/them pronouns for someone if they ask you to?” A surprising number of people manage to fail even that simple test.

But I also can’t tell you how many people I see respond to the ace question with “as long as they’re not homophobic/transphobic/biphobic/racist/etc.” and like. That isn’t a bar we set for other sexualities and genders? If a bi person is racist, they’re still queer — a harmful person, but queer. If a gay person is transphobic, they’re still queer — a harmful person, but queer.

I have two problems with the idea that these answers feed into: first, why would an asexual person’s queerness be dependent on their actions and beliefs, rather than an inherent quality of their identity (if they want it) — especially if other sexualities aren’t subject to that. But secondly and perhaps more importantly — we have to address the existence of transphobia, biphobia, racism, and more within the queer community. And we can’t address it if we ignore it, or just say those people don’t count. They’re still queer, and they are still often found in queer spaces, and they are still harming people — unless we actively work to fix that. Queer people can harm queer people through bigotry or violence. And it’s not an easy problem to fix, not one that can be solved with a few rules or generalizations. It’s needs constant, active work, and it will never be complete, but it’s still important.

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

This is interesting topic, because tumblr is full of queer writers and communities which sometimes makes me feel left out. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings and I absolutely support them in their dreams and goals. I just sometimes don’t know how to act and what to say to people going through queer topics that just don’t fascinate me. Like how do I say I don’t mind, but man I don’t care either?

It gets a bit tiresome to have to read about it every single day, seeing posts about it every time I open the app. Like okay, I guess people need to talk about it cause it’s still a problem for them every day in mundane or family situations, but I don’t have a problem and why are we talking about this again? I just don’t obsess about it which automatically pushes me out.

What is the solution here, so that we can all have fun together on this platform without feeling left out or flooded with topics and posts that don’t speak to all of us? I don’t think I’m not supportive, but I can’t take all these talks every single day. Go and create your poly and gay ships, but being a big fan of platonic friendships and bromance, I don’t want to read that work. I don’t want to insult or hurt anyone, but I don’t want to be around this kind of content all the time. It feels like you push it up my throat constantly.

Like is this the point? Making everyone talk about lgbtq, read their books, get aggressively in their face with content about sexualities and identity they are not interested in, just to be seen? I don’t think this is a good way to get accepted, if that’s the goal. It’s a good way to annoy people, allies, who didn’t have anything against you before (like me), but now are just overwhelmed and allergic to the word LGBTQ and don’t see a safe nice way to ask, are you not lgbtq so we could you know, talk about something else once in a while too?

And I’m afraid to speak up for being attacked (some queers can actually be pretty aggressive and narcissistic as as any person), which at the very least uncomfortable.

[riversongismyqueen]

Bitch just unfollow people

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

Yeah sure, but is there even someone on tumblr who isn’t lgbtq? How do I look for them? How am I supposed to ask nicely if people aren’t, so that it doesn’t bother those who are? You can look for people who dislike fantasy by asking for fans of realistic fiction, but what do you ask here? 

[riversongismyqueen]

Unfollow people who post content you don’t like. You have exactly zero fucking right to complain that people post stuff you don’t like you blithering thundercunt. “Boo hoo people post things I don’t like on their personal blog” jesus christ you’re such an entitled yeast infection.

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

I don’t complain about people posting the stuff they like on their blogs. I’m asking how to better search for like-minded people specifically on tumblr, which has a very specific audience. Your deplorable language really speaks about the low levels of your intelligence. That’s why you probably didn’t understand and instead projected your own issues on my post. I feel sorry for you, hopefully you will have a good life despite it.

[legsdemandias]

“I hope this doesn’t come across as homophobic, but i never want to interact with queer people and i find reading about their experiences annoying”

[korrasera]

To summarize the point for anyone who comes to this later, what hard-to-say-out-loud is asking for is advice on how to do the following:

• Ask queer creators to stop posting queer content.
• Ask queer creators to clearly identify themselves so that hard-to-say-out-loud can avoid their content.
• Do all of this in a way that’s convenient for hard-to-say-out-loud and allows her to feel like she is still supportive of queer people.

All of which rely on this set of assumptions that her perspective implies:

• Queer people are obsessed with talking about queer stuff.
• Queer people are aggressive in pushing queer content on everyone around them. They want to shove it down your throat every day.
• People who don’t want to look at queer content are vastly outnumbered on tumblr.

And I’m guessing that hard-to-say-out-loud feels like she is the victim in all of this, because people have criticized her take. Which she probably takes as validating of the point that queer people are aggressive and obsessed about this kind of thing and attack people like her.

And no, that isn’t the problem at all.

The problem is that hard-to-say-out-loud is speaking from a position that requires accepting bigotry and segregation and she may not even be aware of that fact. When you get exposed to this kind of thing long enough, you learn to recognize it, you learn to translate it.

So let’s do that now.

Keep reading

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

I never said or meant to imply queer creators should hide, not post their content or that there is anything wrong about them existing.

I’m saying that there should be a way to not look at their content just as there is a way to not look at american movies or german songs. A way to politely and without hurting anyone to curate their own experience.

And no, when I say people obsess about something, I’m not saying the thing of obsession is bad, I’m saying the way and the amount they obsess about it is bad.

I also don’t see how looking for specific non-content means harming people or not peacefully sharing the world with them. I’m not going around beating queers up and driving them out of parks, nor am I supporting of disrciminating laws against them.

I don’t want to be separated from queer people. I just don’t want to be seeing them 24/7 just like they don’t want to look at hetero couples and heteronormative people like me 24/7. We should be able to share one world in peace.

Wrong post and wrong internet bubble to look for it here. Thanks for the tips with the extension.

[korrasera]

@hard-to-say-out-loud, thank you for elaborating on your perspective. That said, there’s a difference between what you intend to communicate and what you’re actually communicating. If you’d like to take something from this thread, I would recommend that you stop and sit with these ideas for a while without trying to come up with an answer or a defense.

Keep reading

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

I unterstand it’s probably coming off like I’m complaining about visibility for people who have very hard time getting accepted and being visible in the first place.

Keep reading

[korrasera]

For anyone else reading this after the fact, this is the kind of response that I’m talking about. Someone who isn’t interested in interrogating what they’re doing or why they’re doing it, which is why hard-to-say-out-loud’s responses all seem to ignore everything else said in this thread.

In person, this kind of conversation has a pattern you can learn to listen for. When you raise a point of criticism to discuss with someone and they immediately have a response that dismisses the criticism, they probably aren’t actually listening.

Or, to put that in other terms, that’s what we call ‘getting defensive’. It makes it really hard to have hard conversations. While you’re busy trying to tell someone, “So, yeah, this thing you’re saying? That’s actually pretty harmful to a lot of people,” they’re busy freaking out trying to find any way to convince themselves that they aren’t doing harm to anyone.

In this case, you can see it in the way that hard-to-say-out-loud doesn’t want to talk about the points anyone has raised in this thread and would rather talk about how important it is that she not feel like a bigot.

And finally, you see how she’s moved her argument to ‘well, this is just a bunch of overly sensitive queer people who are really hurt and are lashing out’, which I suppose seems simpler then actually dealing with the core criticism.

Here’s what it all comes down to:

If it’s really important for you to make a public show of asking a question that you don’t need the answer to, “So, how do I avoid queer people? Why do they need to shove their queerness down my throat,” then you might have a problem.

Maybe don’t make working through your unquestioned bigotry the responsibility of the queer community. Or anyone, really. If you want to work through your issues, subjecting people to them isn’t a good way to invite help.

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

But I don’t need help mate. XD Who was asking you for any? I’m totally fine as I am. Actually if you really want to make me a bigot this bad, than I think it’s not as bad as everyone makes it sound.

You don’t want to have a discussion at all. You just want to win the argument and feel like you have “educated” someone, subjagated them to your arguments. You have an agenda, you are not here to discuss things. But hey, I learned it won’t help me find people who aren’t you on posts by you. Gotta be looking somewhere else. Good luck against oppression!

[korrasera]

Aaaaand presented as a final example, here we are, at the end.

Discussion of bigotry and behavior became uncomfortable enough that hard-to-say-out-loud now thinks that bigotry isn’t really as bad as everyone makes it sound.

Take note of the way that she doesn’t engage with any of the points raised in the discussion *and* wants to try to reverse that and suggest that the people that respond to her, myself particularly, aren’t interested in having the discussion.

This is why I illustrate examples of this kind of behavior because it’s easy enough to learn to spot it in the wild. It’s also not the worst thing in the world, because I feel like people in this position often get there by being ignorant of something but then not emotionally prepared to actually question their own position, and that’s easy enough for anyone to find themselves in.

However, since that kind of behavior helps to reinforce the kind of bigotry that goes unquestioned by wider society, it’s important for all of us to learn to recognize it and actively push back against it.

If you’ve sat through this entire thread, as ridiculously long as it is, I’ll leave you with this:

Queer people don’t push their agenda down anyone’s throat and a lot of people are highly invested in trying to silence us. If you’re interested in being an ally to queer people, I really recommend that you learn how to listen to us and learn to recognize the ways in which people find new and subtle ways to attack, demean, and silence us.

[thatsamericano]

Not directly addressing the homophobe, because I doubt she’ll fucking listen, but a few additional points:

• There are no entrance requirements to write m/m or f/f relationships, especially in fanfiction communities. Nobody is going to strike a cishet writer with lightning from on high for writing LGBT+ characters as long as they exercise basic respect and sensitivity.
  
• The desire to see romance between particular characters is a pretty basic reason a lot of people are motivated to write fanfic. Sometimes, it is to reflect a writer’s lived experiences, and other times it’s just because the writer finds the idea of two (or more) characters being in a romantic relationship narratively compelling. Writing m/m, f/f, or poly ships is no more “pushing sexual orientation down someone’s throat” than writing m/f ships (which the homophobe suspiciously neglected to even mention).
• Fanfic that isn’t centered on sex or romance exists. Often, it’s called gen, and platonic relationships are tagged with the & rather than the / symbol on AO3. But gay characters might still exist in them because…
• Gay people are not a fucking fictional genre, holy shit. You shouldn’t be able to filter out the existence of LGBT people in fiction any more than you should be able to filter out the existence of Black people, disabled people, etc. It is not at all comparable to “comedy, romance, or tragedy,” and I can’t believe I even have to say this.
• You shouldn’t be able filter out the existence of LGBT people in fiction, and you definitely shouldn’t be able to filter out the existence of LGBT people on a social media platform. A lot of people like to include basic information about themselves in their profiles, but no one owes you any information about themselves, especially about something as deeply personal as their sexual orientation or gender identity. A simple description of that identity isn’t pushing fucking shit on you.

[hard-to-say-out-loud]

Okay few things I learned from this post that I won’t do again: 1) I won’t generalize and put everyone into the same category 2) I will be more specific with my concerns and examples of behavior that bothers me, 3) I will try to address specific points in other’s responses.

• There are lots of examples of writers getting attacked for writing representation wrong. Published authors teared to shreds for writing it wrong, even though they were having fun or tried to help, like they shouldn’t be allowed to talk about these things without the certificate of having that experience themselves.
• The pushing down someone’s throat isn’t about the conent itself. What I meant here were the posts that go around viral on tumblr about how you have to write them. How there have to be tokens of these pairings in every book and movie (which also gets reflected in newest american movies that really lack in quality but get celebrated just because they have representation of marginalized groups), no matter what the topical, demographic or target audience. I meant media and posts and talks that thematize it in circles without bringing anything new to the debate. If you want to normalize something, shouldn’t you stop tearing attention to it all the time?
• Good point about the tags.
• What I mean with comparing lgbtq to genre is that you should be able to filter on books you want to read. Idk if you are american, but as an european for example I don’t see black people in my country, so we also mostly don’t have books about them. I’m able to filter books specifically with or by black authors. Shouldn’t I be able to do that with white protagonists and authors too, especially in american or english centred databases or platforms? It’s not morally wrong to want to look for specific or similar experience.
• I’m not trying to filter out your existence, I’m trying to find polite or acceptable ways how to find people on tumblr who aren’t lgbtq or don’t centre around those topics so much. I have plenty of them around me, I have plenty of them as friends, so now I’m looking for someone more similar to me or who isn’t blogging so much about those topics and experiences. If LGBTQ wips and works can be looked for on tumblr, why can’t I look for straight wips, or wips not concerned with it just the same? (I have tried that in a post once and was flooded with insults and accusations. But I also found some cool people who messaged me thanks to it later.) They are obviously the minority here, okay, but I’m not going to let go of a platform that otherwise very suits my needs just because of that. This is a post about coexistence. LGBTQ people talk both coexistence since they are the minorities most of the time. Since lgbtq people are minorities, shouldn’t they be able to exist with others in peace? Shouldn’t you be able to coexist with straight authors who want to talk about straight things, when you are the majority in turn?
• Again this is a mistake in communication on my side by not providing specific examples and generalizing. Blog descriptions and personal blog content are absolutely not my concern here and don’t fall into the push down the throat category. The statics I found say that around 5% of people in US and 6% in Europe identity as lgbtq. So why should an experience that concerns so little people rule fictional works across the world? If you want to be statistically correct, why should queer people be in every story? Why should it be so prevalent on every social media and talked about all the time? Talk about it. Just not every day to everyone all the time. I’m talking about the scope and amount here. Make your movies and stories, but I don’t think it’s necessary to make them present in each and every fictional work or say that representation is mandatory for a quality work.
• There is nothing wrong with wanting to read lgbtq content. There isn’t nothing wrong to wanting to read straight conent. This shouldn’t be so hard to understand.
• What I mean by pushing down the throat are general gifs on tumblr that are flooded with gay shipping for disney movies or anime series. Why can’t I browse a tag on anime without getting flooded by gay ships? Book reviews torn down or highlighted to the skies for their representation. It reminds me of the way a game creator with with his career ruined becaus he didn’t want to include black people in a game set in historical part of Czech republic. There were historically no black people there, the whole accusation was nonsense, but he got attacked for it nonetheless. I get the impression this is what will be happening with lgbtq rep and I’m afraid we won’t be able to address this just the same if you can’t see the point of my post.

It can get too much and it’s needlessly annoying people who don’t have a problem otherwise. You want to be inclusive and accepted and coexist with people who aren’t like you, which is a majority of the world? Stop talking and calling attention to yourself and your issues all the time. (Which I admit is hard to quantify and I don’t really know what I want to accomplish by saying that. It’s just the impression I get from tumblr.)

I really wish queer people would be normalized by the society already, so they could stop having to scream to exist. I’m pretty deaf already.

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